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I think anyone that is running java is supposed to pay. And even if java is bundled, I think Oracle wants the subscriptions paid by us to them. (ie. product developers like Progress do the work to distribute java, and then Oracle reaps the benefits from the end users). We are primarily a .Net shop and are somewhat out of the loop when it comes to the state of Java. I think a lot of what Oracle is doing is trying to scare companies into paying for subscriptions. I've never needed to call Oracle for Java support as long as we've run the java products in OpenEdge (adminserver, nameserver, appserver brokers, sonic adapters, eclipse, and what-not). Note that Oracle is still offering java SE for free (see www.oracle.com/.../faqs-jsp-136696.html ) and that is unlikely to change. But given the amount of java in Progress and these "licensing and support changes" from Oracle, I can see why a Progress customer might want to start pay Oracle for a support subscription - especially if they are motivated to do so by fear. But I'm still a bit doubtful that Oracle is ever going to prevent people from gaining access to critical security updates or bug fixes. Doing that would instantly cause people to fear java apps. I'm interested to hear what others have learned about these changes, and the practical impact for customers who don't start paying subscriptions.
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