M
medu
Guest
Hehehe, Julian... he didn't actually used the same wording as you 
As far as I can tell he wasn't looking to build a business case with PSC management, this is often not what a developer is interested in but it doesn't mean the management should ignore that 'pain'. The 'considered harmful' approach might be a bit harsh all right, although he does seems to be aware of it's not so productive outcome, but there might also be the age that play a role in the way we choose to express feelings 
The fact that there is no real open-source library ecosystem is probably not (entirely) the fault of PSC, there are probably only a hand full of those and in almost all cases there are give-aways more than community efforts... but, at the end of the day I don't care much if a particular functionality is implemented in the language itself or I can get it from a number of existing libraries right? We all (well most of us) like the 4gl for what it was (still is) but there should be more than just the language, not only the libraries ecosystem (look at it as the app store equivalent in mobile market) but also the tooling available to make the developer more productive. It's just that I don't like dismissing opinions based on who expressed them, if we go to the facts and exclude Abe's personal feelings there are a lot of valuable feedback in his post that the management can't use to make the product better.
Continue reading...
As far as I can tell he wasn't looking to build a business case with PSC management, this is often not what a developer is interested in but it doesn't mean the management should ignore that 'pain'. The 'considered harmful' approach might be a bit harsh all right, although he does seems to be aware of it's not so productive outcome, but there might also be the age that play a role in the way we choose to express feelings The fact that there is no real open-source library ecosystem is probably not (entirely) the fault of PSC, there are probably only a hand full of those and in almost all cases there are give-aways more than community efforts... but, at the end of the day I don't care much if a particular functionality is implemented in the language itself or I can get it from a number of existing libraries right? We all (well most of us) like the 4gl for what it was (still is) but there should be more than just the language, not only the libraries ecosystem (look at it as the app store equivalent in mobile market) but also the tooling available to make the developer more productive. It's just that I don't like dismissing opinions based on who expressed them, if we go to the facts and exclude Abe's personal feelings there are a lot of valuable feedback in his post that the management can't use to make the product better.Continue reading...