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there's no question that there's room for improvement. There's also no question that Abe had a lot of ideas and is a bright cookie. However, 1) going on a rant and calling the product a steaming pile of *** often won't help the business case with PSC management. 
2) As pointed out with Ruby, it wasn't entirely a fair comparison as he leveraged rails and other libraries to say "look, progress can't do this". Well, neither can ruby without those (free) libraries 3) Ruby is currently having some scalability and reliability issues, so it's not the silver bullet that Abe was espousing. I am always bitching and moaning about Progress and it's low-hanging fruit. (Thomas may agree with this .. 
) but I have never forgotten that progress has provided me with a continuous job for the last 25 years, and all that I have is because of progress. Julian On 27 March 2014 09:00, Lieven De Foor wrote: RE: A (strident) dissenting voice Reply by Lieven De Foor I share Marian's opinion too. Abe puts the finger on some sore spots in OpenEdge. The language and database have come a long way, but there's still a lot to be improved... Stop receiving emails on this subject. Flag this post as spam/abuse. -- Julian Lyndon-Smith IT Director, dot.r http://www.dotr.com "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten" Follow dot.r on http://twitter.com/DotRlimited
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2) As pointed out with Ruby, it wasn't entirely a fair comparison as he leveraged rails and other libraries to say "look, progress can't do this". Well, neither can ruby without those (free) libraries 3) Ruby is currently having some scalability and reliability issues, so it's not the silver bullet that Abe was espousing. I am always bitching and moaning about Progress and it's low-hanging fruit. (Thomas may agree with this .. ) but I have never forgotten that progress has provided me with a continuous job for the last 25 years, and all that I have is because of progress. Julian On 27 March 2014 09:00, Lieven De Foor wrote: RE: A (strident) dissenting voice Reply by Lieven De Foor I share Marian's opinion too. Abe puts the finger on some sore spots in OpenEdge. The language and database have come a long way, but there's still a lot to be improved... Stop receiving emails on this subject. Flag this post as spam/abuse. -- Julian Lyndon-Smith IT Director, dot.r http://www.dotr.com "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten" Follow dot.r on http://twitter.com/DotRlimitedContinue reading...