Progress_Guy
Member
Hi folks,
As a 'die hard' Progress Developer who started off with Progress V6 CHUI and has moved up through the various versions I'm now a full time V9 (soon moving to V10) GUI and WebWSpeed developer.
I've always defended the Progress App. Builder and the interfaces that it produces.
I'm, however, becominga more and more aware of how outdated the final GUI applications are beginning to look. To modernise the final products one has to invest more time and money on Active X's. I've dabbled with VB and find it can be easier to develop front-end applications (not the data access components) in particular, the fact that it automatically pops up lists of methods and attributes. In certain areas I also find that the App. Builder can be a little unstable and very occasionally prone to corrupting files.
Has anyone had any experience of using other front-end development tools, say, .net to interface into Progress databases. Do the applications look any better or does one still have to bolt on Active X's ? Does V10 Progress help in any way. How stable are the final applications ? I'm also particularly interested in using our existing App. Server code from other front-ends other than Progress.
My main concern is that by moving away from App. Builder we would lose the ability to write code very fast and seamlessly integrate the GUI elements with 4GL code. Other concerns include issues such as performance when, say, using ODBC or services.
Any comments from anyone who has gone down this path, is thinking of it or who is dead against would be greatly appreciated. Comments from PSC guys would also be of great interest.
Our current set up utilises App. Server and we have a mix of legacy CHUI applications, GUI clients and also use WebSpeed for a local intranet (which is gradually being extended to ane xtranet). We also have a couple of citrix servers which subsidaries connect to.
Think this would be an interesting thread for all of us to add our comments and respond accordingly.
As a 'die hard' Progress Developer who started off with Progress V6 CHUI and has moved up through the various versions I'm now a full time V9 (soon moving to V10) GUI and WebWSpeed developer.
I've always defended the Progress App. Builder and the interfaces that it produces.
I'm, however, becominga more and more aware of how outdated the final GUI applications are beginning to look. To modernise the final products one has to invest more time and money on Active X's. I've dabbled with VB and find it can be easier to develop front-end applications (not the data access components) in particular, the fact that it automatically pops up lists of methods and attributes. In certain areas I also find that the App. Builder can be a little unstable and very occasionally prone to corrupting files.
Has anyone had any experience of using other front-end development tools, say, .net to interface into Progress databases. Do the applications look any better or does one still have to bolt on Active X's ? Does V10 Progress help in any way. How stable are the final applications ? I'm also particularly interested in using our existing App. Server code from other front-ends other than Progress.
My main concern is that by moving away from App. Builder we would lose the ability to write code very fast and seamlessly integrate the GUI elements with 4GL code. Other concerns include issues such as performance when, say, using ODBC or services.
Any comments from anyone who has gone down this path, is thinking of it or who is dead against would be greatly appreciated. Comments from PSC guys would also be of great interest.
Our current set up utilises App. Server and we have a mix of legacy CHUI applications, GUI clients and also use WebSpeed for a local intranet (which is gradually being extended to ane xtranet). We also have a couple of citrix servers which subsidaries connect to.
Think this would be an interesting thread for all of us to add our comments and respond accordingly.