Lynch John Sadd

joey.jeremiah

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John Sadd Is One Dumb *** Son Of A Bitch

They Should Have Fired His *** Years Ago

I've Met People On Crack That Make More Sense !!!


Man, He Never Gets To The Point

Just Spewes Out Anything On His Mind ???

Especially The Dynamics Series. It Had To Be Said.
 

joey.jeremiah

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what, why does this site keep reformatting the messages ???
i wrote the message in capital letters.

can we please leave the messages as-is.
let people put capitals, indents etc.
as they intended the messages to be !
 
Hmmm

You're one angry man Joey.

Take a chill pill !! (or even better look at my smiley - works for me).

If he was that bad he'd have been sacked a long time ago.
 

joey.jeremiah

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yeah, only idiots smile all the time
don't be afraid to speak your mind if you've got something to say

on the other hand, i've always said gus is brilliant
basically at everything he does

even the stuff he wrote is amazing
the monographs, various white papers and posts etc.

straight and to the point !!!


besides what's so wrong about fighting once in a while
if there's no knives and guns involved

there's some people you can't reason with
fighting is good, it puts things in perspective, set limits

of course it's better to give then to receive
but never the less, it's still fun
 

Casper

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To argue can have a point, but to insult is just plain old stupid and mostly shows more of the person who insults then of the insultee.

don't be afraid to speak your mind if you've got something to say

True, If you got something to say....
 

jongpau

Member
OK, so call me silly.... can anyone tell me exactly *why* John Sadd should be treated in such a way and just *why* he gets this kind of ummm attention here?
 

joey.jeremiah

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i'm not sure what his current title is at the moment
but it's his name on most every progress book ( documentations )

i share the same love for john sadd as i do for bill
because of all the grief he's ever caused, he's just awful
but hey that's just me, i'm still young and stupid ( and abit of a hot head )

one of the things that i personally take with me is that
a good application ( or product for that matter ) improves on peoples life
and a bad one makes their life miserable, or something like that
( i think that's something alot of us 4gl programmers can identify with )


i've been using adm and dynamics for some time now
but it recently came up when i needed to go back and hit the books

the docs do a terrible job explaining adm and dynamics
which is a shame because they're a beautiful, simple concept at heart
and it makes the learning curve that much harder

he tends to ramble on and on for hundreds of pages
about the most minute tedious details
there's no overview, no conclusion ( a few pictures would be nice )


we've all gone through alot of light hearted tutorials ( languages, api's etc. )
that you can wiz through in a few days and start working
with progress you'll be scratching your head for month

over time i've came to rely on competing products docs
database concepts, mechanisms, structures, programming concepts etc.

casper don't be so up tight, this isn't peg
it's okay to complain about the government, windows whatever
you don't have to accept everything
 

Casper

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Hi Joey,

Well at least you make your point clear now. :). I was a bit surprised with so much frustration in a message especially compared to your other posts which makes much more sense.
I know this isn't PEG, but I really can't stand just spitting poison without any arguments. (Well, call it my frustration :).
And I totally agree that it's stupid to just accept everyting, but there are more ways to say things. In that way I like your last post much more then your first in this thread.

Regards,

Casper.
 
I'll second Casper that now I've seen argument am happier. I'm sure Joey you will sleep easier knowing that :)

Slightly off topic, but, I started off with ADM1 and at first though it was the absoulte works. I now think it is the worst environment I've ever had the misfortune of working with. It is a complete insult to Progress and as a result I won't use ADM2 or Dynamics (as most people I talk to say as well).

Why be constrained by such a poorly written/documented framework. I imagine the majority of the Progress community will steer away from Dynamics - I've only known one company who are using it in the UK.

In that respect I pity anyone having to document it.
 

joey.jeremiah

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you mis-understood me
i love dynamics, i hate john

but that's a subject for a different post
when i've have some free time, bye bro
 
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