Progress V8 Documetation

NeilMu

New Member
Hello,

I have a new client who is running V8 Gui and I was looking to see what commands were available in that version. I found I was trying commands which just weren't there in that version.

Does any know where I could find PDFs of the documentation for that version of progress.

At the moment a version upgrade is not possible.

Thanks
 

RealHeavyDude

Well-Known Member
AFAIK the V8 documentation ( 1993 - 1998 ??? ) was never available online. It was a separate media that came with the box that contained the installation media. Plus, AFAIK it was a proprietary format - not PDF.

Your best source would be the help menu in the app builder and/or procedure editor - if it was available back then ...

Just like Cringer, I really do feel sorry for you. I don't get how anybody can run anything that contains any value on ancient ( 20+ years old ) software ...

Heavy Regards, RealHeavyDude.
 

GregTomkins

Active Member
If you could find the grammar definition from a current version (these definitely exist though I don't personally know where), you could feed that into the KEYWORD function. This would be relying on Progress never removing keywords, which as far as I know, is true ;)

OR, you could write a program to create all possible combinations of A-Z and hyphen, and pass them into the KEYWORD function.

If nothing else, you'd make whoever implemented that function at Progress happy, that someone finally used it ;)
 

NeilMu

New Member
Thanks for the advice all. I will contact Progress.

I have only just picked up the software for this company and I can't start with a "You must upgrade", to make me happier as an opening gambit. I will start with the changes to the software they require and then open discussion on moving them onto a 11.xx or whatever version is available at the time.

As always the bigger the software version jump, the greater the potential for heartache, I tend to prefer smaller version jumps than this.
 

TomBascom

Curmudgeon
If they were running Windows for Workgroup would you upgrade them to Win95, Win98, XP, Vista, Win7, Win8 or Win10?

Progress is very, very, very upward compatible.

If you can compile the code you can upgrade.

The potential problems are:

1) With new releases come new keywords. If a variable or field is using such a new keyword you might have a conflict. The quick way around that is to use the -k option to put any such problems into the "keyword forget list" until the code or schema can be modified.

2) You mention v8 GUI. It is likely that you are using some code that was distributed as part of the v8 install -- you will need to make sure to move that forward.

3) Every now and then the compiler tightens up some things that never should have been allowed in the first place. The only case I can think of between v8 and oe11 had to do with shared variables being defined in a way that never should have worked anyway. I doubt that you will run into such an issue.

4) Windows. Your GUI code might be using some very old and very crufty Windows tech like VBXs. That could pose all sorts of problems. Or this might be an application that had the good sense to avoid any such nonsense.

Obviously you need to test -- but why test 3 or 4 upgrades if you only need to test 1?
 
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